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Linksys WRT54G & ?Bridging?

Author
6 Feb 2005 10:16 PM
Randy Widell
I think "bridge" is the term I am looking for...

Here is the setup I desire:

I have two Linksys WRT54G routers.  One is downstairs with a cable modem
and ReplayTV, and I want one to go upstairs with my PC, Playstation2,
and another ReplayTV.  I want the router downstairs to act as the
gateway to the Internet and the router upstairs to act as a bridge for
the ethernet devices (ReplayTV and Playstation2).

I read in the WRT54G manual before buying it that you can put it into a
"router" mode instead of a "gateway" mode, and the description seemed to
indicate that this setup is possible.  I have not, however, been able to
get this setup to work.  The manual was sketchy on the details, so I am
not sure what exactly I need to do.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Author
6 Feb 2005 11:53 PM
Tom Scales
"Randy Widell" <NOSPAM_BornAgainSlakr@hotmail.com_MAPSON> wrote in message
news:jHwNd.34396$EG1.32142@lakeread04...
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>I think "bridge" is the term I am looking for...
>
> Here is the setup I desire:
>
> I have two Linksys WRT54G routers.  One is downstairs with a cable modem
> and ReplayTV, and I want one to go upstairs with my PC, Playstation2, and
> another ReplayTV.  I want the router downstairs to act as the gateway to
> the Internet and the router upstairs to act as a bridge for the ethernet
> devices (ReplayTV and Playstation2).
>
> I read in the WRT54G manual before buying it that you can put it into a
> "router" mode instead of a "gateway" mode, and the description seemed to
> indicate that this setup is possible.  I have not, however, been able to
> get this setup to work.  The manual was sketchy on the details, so I am
> not sure what exactly I need to do.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

For upstairs, you want a WAP54G or a WET54G, both of which will  bridge to a
WRT54G.  Return the second WRT54G and get one of the others.

Tom
Author
7 Feb 2005 12:54 AM
Floyd L. Davidson
"Tom Scales" <tom***@softhome.net> wrote:
>
>For upstairs, you want a WAP54G or a WET54G, both of which will  bridge to a
>WRT54G.  Return the second WRT54G and get one of the others.

A waste of time and good money.  Get the Satori software for free,
and having working in a few minutes.

--
Floyd L. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         fl***@barrow.com
Author
8 Feb 2005 1:06 AM
Randy Widell
Unfortunately, the Satori firmware is not going to work.  I have v2.2 of
the WRT54G.  I guess that means paying the $20 for the Alchemy firmware.

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
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> "Tom Scales" <tom***@softhome.net> wrote:
>
>>For upstairs, you want a WAP54G or a WET54G, both of which will  bridge to a
>>WRT54G.  Return the second WRT54G and get one of the others.
>
>
> A waste of time and good money.  Get the Satori software for free,
> and having working in a few minutes.
>
Author
8 Feb 2005 5:57 AM
Randy Widell
Ok, I bought the Sveasoft Alchemy firmware and setup the upstairs router
as a client.  I set it up to use the static IP 192.168.1.2 on the
downstairs router and devices upstairs can now get through to the Internet.

The only problem that remains is that devices on the different routers
cannot see each other.

Here's the setup...

Downstairs:
  Router: 192.168.1.1
  Mask: 255.255.255.128
  DHCP: .1.50 - .1.99

Upstairs:
  IP: 192.168.1.2
  Gateway: 192.168.1.1
  Router: 192.168.1.129
  Mask: 255.255.255.128
  DHCP: .1.150 - .1.199

Is it possible to setup some kind of static routing on the either/both
that will allow devices to see each other?  Is there any other solution?
  Is there a way to do this without subnetting?  I think ReplayTVs need
to be on the same subnet in order to share shows...

Randy Widell wrote:
Show quote
> I think "bridge" is the term I am looking for...
>
> Here is the setup I desire:
>
> I have two Linksys WRT54G routers.  One is downstairs with a cable modem
> and ReplayTV, and I want one to go upstairs with my PC, Playstation2,
> and another ReplayTV.  I want the router downstairs to act as the
> gateway to the Internet and the router upstairs to act as a bridge for
> the ethernet devices (ReplayTV and Playstation2).
>
> I read in the WRT54G manual before buying it that you can put it into a
> "router" mode instead of a "gateway" mode, and the description seemed to
> indicate that this setup is possible.  I have not, however, been able to
> get this setup to work.  The manual was sketchy on the details, so I am
> not sure what exactly I need to do.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Author
9 Feb 2005 4:25 AM
Randy Widell
Well, for anyone out there wondering how to solve this problem...here
goes...

---Downstairs router connected to Internet---
Internet configure using DHCP
Router IP: 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0
Gateway: 0.0.0.0
DHCP Server: Enabled
DHCP .1.50 - .1.99
Access Point Mode
Mixed Wireless Mode (B+G)
SSID: <your SSID here>
Wireless Channel: <your channel here>
SSID Broadcast Enabled
WPA Enabled
MAC Filter: <your MACs here, INCLUDE the MAC for the other router>
WDS: Enable LAN binding for the other router's MAC
LazyWDS disabled
WDS subnet disabled
Firewall enabled
Block anonymous internet requests enabled

---Upstairs router---
Internet disabled
Router IP: 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0
Gateway: 0.0.0.0
DHCP server disabled
Access Point Mode
Mixed Wireless Mode (B+G)
SSID: same as above
Wireless Channel: same as above
SSID Broadcast Enabled
WPA Enabled
MAC Filter: <your MACs here, INCLUDE the MAC for the other router>
WDS: Enable LAN binding for the other router's MAC
LazyWDS disabled
WDS subnet disabled
Firewall enabled
Block anonymous internet requests enabled

....and viola, works for me...  and hopefully this saves someone the
frustration i suffered.

Randy Widell wrote:
Show quote
> Ok, I bought the Sveasoft Alchemy firmware and setup the upstairs router
> as a client.  I set it up to use the static IP 192.168.1.2 on the
> downstairs router and devices upstairs can now get through to the Internet.
>
> The only problem that remains is that devices on the different routers
> cannot see each other.
>
> Here's the setup...
>
> Downstairs:
>  Router: 192.168.1.1
>  Mask: 255.255.255.128
>  DHCP: .1.50 - .1.99
>
> Upstairs:
>  IP: 192.168.1.2
>  Gateway: 192.168.1.1
>  Router: 192.168.1.129
>  Mask: 255.255.255.128
>  DHCP: .1.150 - .1.199
>
> Is it possible to setup some kind of static routing on the either/both
> that will allow devices to see each other?  Is there any other solution?
>  Is there a way to do this without subnetting?  I think ReplayTVs need
> to be on the same subnet in order to share shows...
>
> Randy Widell wrote:
>
>> I think "bridge" is the term I am looking for...
>>
>> Here is the setup I desire:
>>
>> I have two Linksys WRT54G routers.  One is downstairs with a cable
>> modem and ReplayTV, and I want one to go upstairs with my PC,
>> Playstation2, and another ReplayTV.  I want the router downstairs to
>> act as the gateway to the Internet and the router upstairs to act as a
>> bridge for the ethernet devices (ReplayTV and Playstation2).
>>
>> I read in the WRT54G manual before buying it that you can put it into
>> a "router" mode instead of a "gateway" mode, and the description
>> seemed to indicate that this setup is possible.  I have not, however,
>> been able to get this setup to work.  The manual was sketchy on the
>> details, so I am not sure what exactly I need to do.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Author
9 Feb 2005 5:20 AM
Floyd L. Davidson
Randy Widell <NOSPAM_BornAgainSlakr@hotmail.com_MAPSON> wrote:
>Well, for anyone out there wondering how to solve this
>problem...here goes...
>
>---Downstairs router connected to Internet---
>Internet configure using DHCP
>Router IP: 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0

....

>---Upstairs router---
>Internet disabled
>Router IP: 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0
>Gateway: 0.0.0.0
>DHCP server disabled

....

>...and viola, works for me...  and hopefully this saves someone
>the frustration i suffered.

That's the easy way.  You actually could keep the subnetting
that you originally proposed, but the tricks to get that into
the route tables of the WRT54G are sort of complex.

Have you experimented yet with enabling telnetd, and logging
into the WRT54G to look around?

--
Floyd L. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         fl***@barrow.com
Author
9 Feb 2005 12:44 PM
Randy Widell
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
Show quote
> Randy Widell <NOSPAM_BornAgainSlakr@hotmail.com_MAPSON> wrote:
>
>>Well, for anyone out there wondering how to solve this
>>problem...here goes...
>>
>>---Downstairs router connected to Internet---
>>Internet configure using DHCP
>>Router IP: 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0
>
>
> ...
>
>
>>---Upstairs router---
>>Internet disabled
>>Router IP: 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0
>>Gateway: 0.0.0.0
>>DHCP server disabled
>
>
> ...
>
>
>>...and viola, works for me...  and hopefully this saves someone
>>the frustration i suffered.
>
>
> That's the easy way.  You actually could keep the subnetting
> that you originally proposed, but the tricks to get that into
> the route tables of the WRT54G are sort of complex.
>
> Have you experimented yet with enabling telnetd, and logging
> into the WRT54G to look around?
>

Not really.  After three days of messing around, I just wanted it to work...

You have me interested, though.  I started thinking about it, and it
seemed like devices connected to the routers had to be on the same
subnet.  I figured the ReplayTVs, for instance, just look at their
subnet masks and scan IPs within that subnet for other ReplayTVs.  At
least, that made sense with my limited understanding of networking.  I
didn't think there would be a way around that in the routing tables.

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