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Author
7 Feb 2005 6:41 PM
Bob
Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.

Bob

Author
7 Feb 2005 6:59 PM
Smowk
Bob <bobh1***@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
> problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.
>
> Bob
>
>

linksys has seemed much better from my experience.

i've had both installed at a few business locations, and the linksys always
seems to cause less problems.  i've been called in to help with netgear
routers WAY too often.  and usually the solution is just to throw in a
linksys, or something commercial, but linksys usually seems to solve the
problem.

smowk
Author
7 Feb 2005 7:07 PM
Lucas Tam
Smowk <Smowk***@Yahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns95F68E572D0FDSmowkieBandit@
216.196.97.131:

> i've been called in to help with netgear
> routers WAY too often.

Did you understand Netgear Support's English? Last time I called, Netgear
support was in "Tennessee", but they had Indian accents. I didn't know
Tennessee had a large Indian population.

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Author
7 Feb 2005 7:55 PM
dold
Lucas Tam <REMOVEn***@rogers.com> wrote:
> Did you understand Netgear Support's English? Last time I called, Netgear
> support was in "Tennessee", but they had Indian accents. I didn't know
> Tennessee had a large Indian population.

I think that is the landing point for their VoIP network.

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Author
7 Feb 2005 7:57 PM
Lucas Tam
d***@XReXXLinks.usenet.us.com wrote in news:cu8h46$hjm$4@blue.rahul.net:

> Lucas Tam <REMOVEn***@rogers.com> wrote:
>> Did you understand Netgear Support's English? Last time I called,
>> Netgear support was in "Tennessee", but they had Indian accents. I
>> didn't know Tennessee had a large Indian population.
>
> I think that is the landing point for their VoIP network.

That's what I thought. I wish Indian call centers wouldn't pretend they're
in North America. The fact that the agents have heavy accents and don't
understand common North American slang pretty much gives away they're not
in Canada/US.

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Author
8 Feb 2005 1:27 AM
Smowk
Lucas Tam <REMOVEn***@rogers.com> wrote in
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> Smowk <Smowk***@Yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns95F68E572D0FDSmowkieBandit@ 216.196.97.131:
>
>> i've been called in to help with netgear
>> routers WAY too often.
>
> Did you understand Netgear Support's English? Last time I called,
> Netgear support was in "Tennessee", but they had Indian accents. I
> didn't know Tennessee had a large Indian population.
>

come on now...everywhere has a large indian population these days
Author
7 Feb 2005 7:08 PM
George
"Smowk" <Smowk***@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> linksys has seemed much better from my experience.
>
> i've had both installed at a few business locations, and the linksys
always
> seems to cause less problems.  i've been called in to help with netgear
> routers WAY too often.  and usually the solution is just to throw in a
> linksys, or something commercial, but linksys usually seems to solve the
> problem.
>
> smowk

What issues have you seen where replacing a netgear with a linksys fixed the
problem?
Author
8 Feb 2005 1:27 AM
Smowk
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"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
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>
> "Smowk" <Smowk***@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns95F68E572D0FDSmowkieBandit@216.196.97.131...
>>
>> linksys has seemed much better from my experience.
>>
>> i've had both installed at a few business locations, and the linksys
> always
>> seems to cause less problems.  i've been called in to help with
>> netgear routers WAY too often.  and usually the solution is just to
>> throw in a linksys, or something commercial, but linksys usually
>> seems to solve the problem.
>>
>> smowk
>
> What issues have you seen where replacing a netgear with a linksys
> fixed the problem?
>
>
>

all 3 of the times i've installed a netgear router/access point, it's
caused random (and I mean random) computers at each location to just lose
their connection.  reboot, it just sits there in "acquring network
address" stage.  I've used linksys adapters, netgear adapters, and belkin
adapters, all causing the same problem (which led me to believe it was
the AP/router (which it was...i guess).  I've also tried using windows
xp's network utility, and the 3rd party utilities to connect...same
thing. 

deleting the profile, and re-setting up the AP/router on the client (WEP
and all) seems to work, but most of the office workers don't really
understand a lot of that stuff, and teaching them 3 & 4 times doesnt'
seem to help either.  this is why i installed linksys APs/routers (with
the newest firmware, which of course i tried with the netgears) which
worked perfectly.  I literally haven't been back since...

smowk
Author
7 Feb 2005 9:57 PM
Doug Jamal
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:41:45 -0500, Bob <bobh1***@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
>problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.
>
>Bob
I've used both and the Netgear product performed better for me and my
situation.  Both are popular brands for home and small business use
and you will find people who swears by them both.  Still, like any
other product, there are pros and cons.  In my experience, The Linksys
WRT54G kept dropping signals, but other linksys products did not.  In
regards to the Netgear WGR614 (my experience has been with version 1),
it kept overheating and needed to be rebooted too much.  On the other
hand, other Netgear products performed flawessly.  Maybe I had a
couple of lemons...maybe not.  Anyway, just pick one, take it home and
try it.  If it's not to your liking, take it back and try the another
brand.  You're soon to find one that will suit your needs.  Take care.
Author
8 Feb 2005 1:29 AM
Smowk
Doug Jamal <bishiv***@yahooDOT.com> wrote in
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> In my experience, The Linksys
> WRT54G kept dropping signals, but other linksys products did not. 

thats the problem i had with netgear...and the wrt54g fixed it right
up...weird
Author
7 Feb 2005 9:58 PM
MM
"Bob" <bobh1***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
> problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.
>
> Bob
>
pretty much the same - buy the cheapest ;)
Author
7 Feb 2005 11:13 PM
Rob
I can't.  I need to pick which is "the best" because I'll be buying
100 of them for remote users at my company.  I'm the IT guy in charge
of deciding which is best for the home/VPN users.  I do have both for
testing, and both perform okay, but in just a few days testing I won't
be able to tell the long term longevity.

If I wanted to spend a little more money on a better (read: more
reliable) all-in-one router/firewall/WAP, which would be the best bet?

-Bob



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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:58:01 +0000 (UTC), "MM" <mmal***@btinernet.com>
wrote:

>
>"Bob" <bobh1***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:rhdf01dnjknrnatnm97rm42mroiidr884j@4ax.com...
>> Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
>> problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>pretty much the same - buy the cheapest ;)
>
Author
8 Feb 2005 12:47 AM
Airhead
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"Rob" <bobh1***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I can't.  I need to pick which is "the best" because I'll be buying
> 100 of them for remote users at my company.  I'm the IT guy in
charge
> of deciding which is best for the home/VPN users.  I do have both
for
> testing, and both perform okay, but in just a few days testing I
won't
> be able to tell the long term longevity.
>
> If I wanted to spend a little more money on a better (read: more
> reliable) all-in-one router/firewall/WAP, which would be the best
bet?

They are cheap enough to by 2 for every site, that way your a** is
covered.
I have had no problems with linksys, havent used a netgear but I find
that
netgears website has a lot better info than linksys which counts for
something.
3com is also a nice product and I think are a step above some other
brands.
Netgear has some business class firewall routers that are probably
more reliable too.
Business class equipment is designed for reliability, home stuff is
cheap and uses
the cheapest components but are also the cheapest to replace if they
fail.

I would read all the faqs and support issues for both products and
make sure
that your environment does not include something that is problematic
in a particular brand.
Before you ship them make sure they have the latest firmware fixes!!
Author
8 Feb 2005 1:33 AM
Lucas Tam
Rob <bobh1***@hotmail.com> wrote in news:uctf01pj8kbsduotlad44j6cmbs9ltlhc9
@4ax.com:

> I can't.  I need to pick which is "the best" because I'll be buying
> 100 of them for remote users at my company.  I'm the IT guy in charge
> of deciding which is best for the home/VPN users.  I do have both for
> testing, and both perform okay, but in just a few days testing I won't
> be able to tell the long term longevity.
>
> If I wanted to spend a little more money on a better (read: more
> reliable) all-in-one router/firewall/WAP, which would be the best bet?

Check out Zyxel or Sonic Firewall. They offer better grade stuff. Sonic
Firewall does have an expensive licensing scheme tho, so you might be
better off with Zyxel's Zywall routers/firewalls.


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Author
8 Feb 2005 1:51 PM
Bob
Do you mean Sonicwalls?  We use Sonicwalls for some of our permanent
sites, but they are too expensive and WAY too cumbersome for an
initial setup to be mass deployed.  If Sonicwall would fix their
registration requirement on that extremely slow web site, I might
change my mind.  However, we don't need lan-to-lan VPN's anyway, hence
the Sonicwall's high price.  Zyxel is the same way.  3COM I never
considered.  They are under $100 for the 3COM Officeconnect cable/DSL
router.  Any experience with those??

Bob



On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 01:33:35 GMT, Lucas Tam <REMOVEn***@rogers.com>
wrote:

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>Rob <bobh1***@hotmail.com> wrote in news:uctf01pj8kbsduotlad44j6cmbs9ltlhc9
>@4ax.com:
>
>> I can't.  I need to pick which is "the best" because I'll be buying
>> 100 of them for remote users at my company.  I'm the IT guy in charge
>> of deciding which is best for the home/VPN users.  I do have both for
>> testing, and both perform okay, but in just a few days testing I won't
>> be able to tell the long term longevity.
>>
>> If I wanted to spend a little more money on a better (read: more
>> reliable) all-in-one router/firewall/WAP, which would be the best bet?
>
>Check out Zyxel or Sonic Firewall. They offer better grade stuff. Sonic
>Firewall does have an expensive licensing scheme tho, so you might be
>better off with Zyxel's Zywall routers/firewalls.
Author
8 Feb 2005 5:17 PM
Eras
"Bob" wrote in message

> Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
> problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.

I'd go with Linksys.  I only messed with a Netgear router once (friend who
needed help getting it up), but found it to be quite flakey.  All the
Linksys hardware that I've gone through in public (hotel, hot spots, etc)
always was very stable though.

I'm using all D-Link (router, two AP's, bridges, repeater, client hardware,
etc) at home and have found D-Link to work very well -- once it's up --
however the documentation for D-Link can be atrocious.  General information
is liberally provided with hardware and their "support" web site, but
getting more technical information needed for many "advanced features" can
be like pulling teeth.  I've found myself using Linksys's web site on many
occassions to answer questions about my D-Link hardware.  Go figure.

D-Link = excellent hardware (at least in my experience), but horrible
documentation.
Author
8 Feb 2005 6:59 PM
Robert
Bob wrote:

> Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
> problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.
>
> Bob
Have good luck with Linksys. Did have trouble with the firmware on some
models, but they finally got it right.
--
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Author
8 Feb 2005 10:52 PM
Smowk
Robert <redn***@lowtech.net> wrote in news:g_7Od.3180$UX3.3065
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

> Bob wrote:
>
>> Is there a preferred vendor for a home router?  Which is the least
>> problematic?  I'm looking at the WRT54G or WGR614 respectively.
>>
>> Bob
> Have good luck with Linksys. Did have trouble with the firmware on some
> models, but they finally got it right.

I think that's true with most of the wireless adapters/routers/APs.  At
first, they weren't too...ROBUST...but now they work fine for me. 

in other words

UPDATE FIRMWARE ASAP if your using something older

Smowk

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