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Author
11 Feb 2005 2:21 PM
Giovanni Azua
Hello all,

I just received a new Dell Precision which is
supposed to be extremelly powerful but then scores
very badly using PassMark PerformanceTest.

Is there any software that would tell me something
like e.g.

"The very cheap memory chip #3 installed on your
system Hyundai is slowing down everything like hell"

? kind of ...

Thanks in advance,
Best Regards,
Giovanni

Author
11 Feb 2005 3:15 PM
Chris Stolworthy
Well I am not sure about that, but the first thing I would suspect is maybe
the video card?  You didn't specify any specs so I am not sure.  If it is a
brand new PC alot of times the bottleneck will be in the video card.
Post some specs aas much info as possible and I can try and help.

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Author
11 Feb 2005 3:41 PM
Giovanni Azua
Hello Chris,

Thank you for your will to help :-)

> Well I am not sure about that, but the first thing I would suspect is
maybe
> the video card?  You didn't specify any specs so I am not sure.  If it is
a
> brand new PC alot of times the bottleneck will be in the video card.
> Post some specs aas much info as possible and I can try and help.
>

It is a new Precision 670:

-----------------------------------
Dual Xeon 3.2GHz/800Mhz/1MB
2GB RAM DDR2 400 ECC Dual Channel
Intel E7525 chipset EM64T
128MB PCI-E ATI FIREGL V3100 (ELGA)
80GB SATA HDD 7200rpm
36GB SCSI HDD 10K rpm
16X DVD +/- RW + Soft
16X DVD ROM
Win XP Pro SP2
-----------------------------------

Is it also usual that DELL packs whatever kind
of disparate of different (cheap) component vendors
into their bundles? I am extremelly upset with this
Hyundai thing inside my Workstation ...

TIA,
Best Regards,
Giovanni
Author
11 Feb 2005 10:12 PM
Chris Stolworthy
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"Giovanni Azua" <brave***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3742cqF58aq73U1@individual.net...
> Hello Chris,
>
> Thank you for your will to help :-)
>
>> Well I am not sure about that, but the first thing I would suspect is
> maybe
>> the video card?  You didn't specify any specs so I am not sure.  If it is
> a
>> brand new PC alot of times the bottleneck will be in the video card.
>> Post some specs aas much info as possible and I can try and help.
>>
>
> It is a new Precision 670:
>
> -----------------------------------
> Dual Xeon 3.2GHz/800Mhz/1MB
> 2GB RAM DDR2 400 ECC Dual Channel
> Intel E7525 chipset EM64T
> 128MB PCI-E ATI FIREGL V3100 (ELGA)
> 80GB SATA HDD 7200rpm
> 36GB SCSI HDD 10K rpm
> 16X DVD +/- RW + Soft
> 16X DVD ROM
> Win XP Pro SP2
> -----------------------------------
>
> Is it also usual that DELL packs whatever kind
> of disparate of different (cheap) component vendors
> into their bundles? I am extremelly upset with this
> Hyundai thing inside my Workstation ...
>
> TIA,
> Best Regards,
> Giovanni
>
Well yes vendors are known for using generic parts.  They buy in bulk to
keep costs down.  The main thing I see here keeping your system down is the
video card.  Here is an excerpt from ATI's website "Outstanding entry-level
workstation performance and quality utilizing 4 pixel pipelines and 2
geometry engines "
Notice the part about 4 pipelines?  A pipeline shuttles data back and forth
on the video card, the more you have, the more data you can move!  4
Pipelines in all actuality isn't much.  My Ati X800Xt has 16 Pipelines.  The
video card in there is not designed for gaming, but rather for utilizing
workstation and data-entry level positions.  If you want to play high end
games with all eye candy and good frames per second, or even to get a better
score with your benchmarking software I would recommend that you change out
the video.  The stats on the rest of the machine are impressive enough that
you should see a rather significant increase just by video.  Also, to note,
you didn't specify your OS.  If you are running a linux based OS then you
will probably want a Nvidia based card as their linux based driver set is
HUGELY better than ATI's.  Hope this helps.

-Chris
P.S.: If you DO change video cards, check your power supply to make sure
that it will handle a new power-hungry video card.
Author
11 Feb 2005 11:41 PM
Giovanni Azua
Hello Chris,

Thank you very much for your help and advice :-)

And you were 100% right, I got the low scores because of my video card,
everything else performs quite nicely even the memory parts which after an
exaustive report generated with "Sandra" I see they are performing ok at
the expected speed, btw my mflops score is superb 1500!

I have two places where to upgrade now: video and SCSI RAID.

Many thanks again,
Best Regards,
Giovanni

PS: Is it PassMark the only software for exchange benchmarks?

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> Well yes vendors are known for using generic parts.  They buy in bulk to
> keep costs down.  The main thing I see here keeping your system down is
> the video card.  Here is an excerpt from ATI's website "Outstanding
> entry-level workstation performance and quality utilizing 4 pixel
> pipelines and 2 geometry engines "
> Notice the part about 4 pipelines?  A pipeline shuttles data back and
> forth on the video card, the more you have, the more data you can move!  4
> Pipelines in all actuality isn't much.  My Ati X800Xt has 16 Pipelines.
> The video card in there is not designed for gaming, but rather for
> utilizing workstation and data-entry level positions.  If you want to play
> high end games with all eye candy and good frames per second, or even to
> get a better score with your benchmarking software I would recommend that
> you change out the video.  The stats on the rest of the machine are
> impressive enough that you should see a rather significant increase just
> by video.  Also, to note, you didn't specify your OS.  If you are running
> a linux based OS then you will probably want a Nvidia based card as their
> linux based driver set is HUGELY better than ATI's.  Hope this helps.
>
> -Chris
> P.S.: If you DO change video cards, check your power supply to make sure
> that it will handle a new power-hungry video card.
>
Author
13 Feb 2005 8:56 PM
Jon Danniken
"Giovanni Azua" wrote:
>> PS: Is it PassMark the only software for exchange benchmarks?

Futuremark makes a pretty good bench for your video system.

Jon

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